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Re: [Reader-list] Regarding India Map #2

Via: "yasir ~"

dear dhatri / martin / all

any guesses as to why this one is not on the map (apart from many others)
http://www.hinglajmata.com/index2.htm

the map in question seems to be this one
http://sacredsites.com/asia/india/india.html

it seems to be based on the current line of control LOC (see map)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_control

read more
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060212/asp/frontpage/story_5836362.asp

pictures of the trip
http://www.pawspakistan.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=256
http://offroadpakistan.com/pictures/hingol_2005/index.html?page=all

as for the the country pakistan (where this is...), it seems to be
missing from both (sacred sites) categories asia and middle east -
something that commonly happens in borderlands, frontier lands or as
the article says nowherelands. iran gets its share, india its, ....
its an old story...

an older colleague was born in karachi, india in the 1930s. his
passport from a north american country said so, which was endless
problem for him as you can imagine a frequent traveller having to
argue with the kids at immigration counters about whether karachi was
india or pakistan. thats a version of manto's toba tek singh all over
again ...




its here
http://www.findpk.com/SV/Toba_Tek_Singh.htm

http://www.ttsinghpolice.gov.pk/Page.aspx?id=7

http://www.sacw.net/partition/tobateksingh.html











On 10/31/07, we wi wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> FYI.
>
> Jai Hind.
> Dhatri.
>
>
>
> Martin Gray wrote:
>
> Yes, this correction will indeed be made. It, and several others, are going to be some time soon...........thanks for the reminder anyway.............martin
>
> On Oct 30, 2007, at 12:13 AM, we wi wrote:
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Hope you are doing well. This is just a reminder to your previous mail.
>
> Regards,
> Dhatri.
>
> Martin Gray wrote:
> Dhatri,
>
> I see what you mean. My map of India does indeed need to be corrected. I will not be able to do this until a few days after October 15 since I will be away from Sedona, Arizona, where I live, presenting several slide shows around the states.
>
> Thank you for alerting me to this matter.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Martin Gray
> SacredSites.com
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> From: we wi
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:24:47 -0700 (PDT)
> To: Martin Gray
> Subject: Re: Regarding India Map
>
>
> Martin,
>
>
>
> Jammu and Kashmir of India should be like this. Please find the attachment.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dhatri.
> Martin Gray wrote:
>
> Tell me which parts.
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> From: we wi
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 05:07:01 -0700 (PDT)
> To: , ,
> Subject: Regarding India Map
>
> Hi Martin,
>
>
>
> Could you please correct the India Map. Some parts of Jammu and Kashmir of India are mistakenly joined into Pakistan and China.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dhatri.
>
>
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B - Grade Engineering College Culture / Sixth Posting / Nalin N. Mathur

Via: "Nalin Mathur"

B - Grade Engineering College Culture / Sixth Posting / Nalin N. Mathur

I had planned to make trhis posting a visual one. But was unable to load the
same over the relevent medium. Hence, the post below speaks on a couple of
topics over which I had begun some work. During the course of discussion
with fellow batchmates and people at work I observed that one thing that is
absolutely similar during ones engineering days are movies. Also, there is
one moment or instant that one expireences, which defines ones engineering
days. The post below describes the same.

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Random Thoughts

I am sure it seems somewhat amusing to have a whole write up about the
effect that movies have had on the cultural aspect of my college days. For
anyone living in times like these, movies certainly play a significant role
in shaping one's cultural outlook. I strongly believe in the maxim that
movies reflect the society and vice versa. Hence, to state the obvious
brings in no value add or insight to this project. However, when the thin
line between one's cultural inhabitations and outlook and one's identity as
a whole, begins to fade, movies, I would say, carve out a new dimension. For
me and my college friends, there is an uncanny relation between the way our
eventful days at college and the movies released every Friday. What we saw,
we did. There were instances, when we engrossed in a particular scene,
simply exclaimed – Hey that is us!

I had just left school when I saw American Pie. Unabashed and voyeuristic,
the fable of those high school friends initiated my romance with the college
life. I knew something was missing, when unlike the majestic prom, I found
myself purchasing tickets for Appu Ghar after my school farewell. The actual
disappointment came in college. Girls were as scarce as genuine all-rounders
in our cricket team. Highly inspired by the movie, my gang made a pact too.
It was not fetch a girl friend each. We knew our strengths, hence decided
not to let any of our batch mate have one. We tried our best to spoil the
show where ever possible. Our cause gained momentum and a few more joined
the endeavor. It was only after a solid bashing by the seniors we lost
steam. We never went to 'the next step'.

Apart from movies, there have been instances whose incidental timings were
in sync with some important junctures. It all began with the day when I,
tucked in the back seat of my uncle's car, sped through the highway to visit
my college for the first time. We were traveling to do get me admitted. My
parents were discussing the tuition fee, while I blessed the beautiful sunny
day; supremely confident of myself having got through a college whose
standing was somewhat above my grasp for science, I was dead sure that
nothing could go wrong today. Upon reaching my college, among the first
things I saw was the coverage of airplanes crashing through the World Trade
Center. The date was 9/11/2001. The Gods were showing me the signs and a
gullible that I am, sank them in. The ominous day set the tone for my time
ahead at the college.
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Looking for material on partition

Via: "Naresh Kumar"

I am looking for some material on partition like maps of prepartitioned bengal and Punjab, undivided India, India after partition etc. Let me know from where i can downlode these maps and other photographs of the personalities and events related to independence and partition. If anyone has something like this then please send it to me through mail.
Naresh Kumar,
Phone:+91-11-65486858,
Mobile:+91-9212066707.
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Re: [Reader-list] Regarding India Map #2

Via: we wi

Dear All,

FYI.

Jai Hind.
Dhatri.



Martin Gray wrote:

Yes, this correction will indeed be made. It, and several others, are going to be some time soon...........thanks for the reminder anyway.............martin

On Oct 30, 2007, at 12:13 AM, we wi wrote:

Hi Martin,

Hope you are doing well. This is just a reminder to your previous mail.

Regards,
Dhatri.

Martin Gray wrote:
Dhatri,

I see what you mean. My map of India does indeed need to be corrected. I will not be able to do this until a few days after October 15 since I will be away from Sedona, Arizona, where I live, presenting several slide shows around the states.

Thank you for alerting me to this matter.

Sincerely,

Martin Gray
SacredSites.com


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Walk for Land Reforms & Sindh-Balochistan Peasants Assembly

Via: Zulfiqar Shah

Walk for Land Reforms & Sindh-Balochistan Peasants Assembly


Dear All,

Greetings from SAP-PK Sindh office!

South Asia Partnership Pakistan Sindh Office has launched a campaign for land reforms, peasant’s rights and legislation. In this regard, we are going to organize a weeklong Sindh-Balochistan Interaction for Peasants Rights on November 01-05, 2007 in the different cities and villages of the province that will be participated by various organizations and networks representatives from both provinces.

In the context, you are cordially invited to:

- Walk for Land Reforms on November 4, 2007 at 11 am [Walk will begin from Old Campus Building to Press Club Hyderabad]

- Sindh–Balochistan Harri Kath [Peasants’ Assembly] on November 5, 2007, 01:00 PM, at Hotel Indus, Hyderabad, in which representatives of peasant networks and organization of Sindh and Balochistan will discuss the peasants’ issue of the provinces.

Your participation in the events will highly be appreciated.

Kind Regards,


Zulfiqar Shah
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Public Understanding of Science and the Media

Via: "Shiju Sam Varughese"

Dear Friends,
This is my fifth posting. Sorry for the delay as I was out of station
for quite some time.

Public Understanding of Science and the Media

In India, the 'Public Understanding of Science' (PUS) Studies is still
in its infancy as an academic field. Many of the early studies are
based on large quantitative opinion surveys that assess public
attitudes to science. A review of literature shows that the Indian
studies on PUS can be classified into two main areas. Investigation
into the public reception of science is the first category. For
instance, the study that was done by Gauhar Raza, Surjit Singh and
Bharvi Dutt (2002 "Public, Science, and Cultural Distance". Science
Communication 23/3, March: 293-309) attempts to define the 'cultural
distance' of the public from science and they propose a quantitative
method to empirically measure it. They measure the cultural distance
by developing an indicator on the basis of the number of years a
person spends in formal schooling. Many of these studies keep
positivist picture of science as the standard against which the depth
of people's 'assimilation of science' is tested. There are some
studies which examine the journalistic production of science news.
Bharvi Dutt and K.C. Garg (2000 "An Overview of Science and Technology
Coverage in Indian-Language Dailies". Public Understanding of Science
9:123-140.) analyse news items on science and technology in English
newspapers published in different parts of India during 1996. They use
the technique of counting columns of science news to quantify the
amount of space provided for science news by each newspaper. This
study identifies the newspapers that report more science news, and
also the most reported themes.

A historical study of science journalism in Kerala since its inception
in the latter half of the nineteenth century was carried out by Anil
Kumar Vadavathoor (2001 Science Journalism: Vikasavum Parinamavum
(Mal.). Thiruvananthapuram: Kerala Language Institute.) that factually
describes the content of the early Malayalam magazines and the science
themes reported.

A study that considers the media as an active agent in the
negotiations over science is Renu Addlakha (2001 "State Legitimacy and
Social Suffering in a Modern Epidemic: A Case Study of Dengue
Hemorrhagic Fever in Delhi". Contributions to Indian Sociology (n.s)
35/2:151-179.). The study on the outbreak of dengue fever in Delhi in
1996 uses a 'multi-sited ethnographic approach' to capture the nexus
between law, medicine and the state administration. She looks at the
media as an active agent who function as a commentator, communicator,
educator and watchdog in the context of the epidemic. She opines that
the media has a 'representational role' in constructing the crisis and
in functioning as a crucial link between the state, the medical
establishment and local communities. She points out that the media has
its own agenda and stakes in pursuing the issue: "An overview of the
news reports during the dengue outbreak shows that the print media
played a vital role, acting both as a source of information for the
public and as a sentinel of government action. The press tried to
access the outbreaks from the perspective of different actors, such as
the state agencies, the medical profession and the affected
communities. In the process, it became a platform on which
negotiations between the agents of control and the communities took
place" (ibid: 159). However, the study considers the media no more
than an actor among others in the issue. The study also fails to
conceive the public as active actors with their own perspectives on
medical science and public health.

A review of the existing studies on the PUS in India indicates that
they consider science as disembodied knowledge, which is produced in
laboratories by the scientific community. These studies refuse to
understand modern science as a culture with a "diffuse collection of
institutions, areas of special knowledge and theoretical
interpretations whose forms and boundaries are open to negotiation
with other social institutions and forms of knowledge" (see the
authors' introduction (p.8) in Alan Irwin and Brian Wynne (eds.) 1996.
Misunderstanding Science? The Public Reconstruction of Science and
Technology. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press). This shortcoming
leads to a failure in capturing the ways in which the publics actively
negotiate on the social meanings of sciences and questioning the
legitimacy of modern science in their daily life. The Indian studies
on science and media hold the 'deficit' perspective that approaches
science as an esoteric activity of the scientific community, devoid of
'social contamination' of any kind and the main attempt here is to
quantify science news in order to understand the themes/disciplines
that frequently appear in the press, and those newspapers reporting
maximum science news. Moreover, majority of these studies analyse
exclusively the English dailies for science news. There are hardly any
studies on the regional press and the public understanding of science
in the regions in India. The emphasis on the English media is
misleading, as there are studies which show the stagnation in the
growth rate of the English press and the rapid growth and
diversification of the regional newspapers in India. Therefore, it is
important to explore the regional dynamics to understand the
characteristics of the public understanding of science in India. My
proposed study analyses the regional press for the debates and
negotiations over a scientific controversy, situating the popular
press in the wider context of public understanding of science in
Kerala society.







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IFS: Papaajoba: Post no 6 & 7

Via: anuja ghosalkar

Hi All,
Below is the link to the blog for post no 6 & 7,
Govinda ala re. More photos and transcripts on their
way.
www.papaajoba.blogspot.com/

Anuja
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[Announcements] [DFA: 24] DFA Screening of Jahaji Music

Via: "Delhi Film Archive [DFA]"

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[Announcements] ISEA 2008: Final Call for Papers - 14 Nov Deadline

Via: "Nisar Keshvani, LEA"

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Rockefeller foundation urban healthcare sixth posting

Via: burton cleetus

Dear friends,

The activities of the Rockefeller foundation was laid
on a society and state where social consciousness for
the implementation of healthcare had already been laid
down by the missionaries who considered Travancore
experience as a blueprint for the spread of
Christianity within the subcontinent.

It was on the large-scale health care investments
carried out by the missionaries that Rockefeller
foundation laid the institutional structure for urban
healthcare in the late 1920’s. Among the requests
received from various states for assistance for
healthcare, the Rockefeller foundation sought to chose
Travancore for its sphere of activity. Though no
concrete reasons were given for the choice of the
land, it seems that the foundation’s considerations
were primarily guided by the fact that Travancore had
a relatively higher level of literacy and similar
human development indices that would in turn ensure
the successful implementation of western medical
paradigms in Travancore. In a recently held interview,
the President of the Foundation, Judith Rodin echoed
the considerations of the foundation behind guided
their philanthropic concerns. She argued, “...we
measure success by looking at impact. That is, if you
define your problem properly, then you can ask
yourself in a really sensible way, have we made a
difference? Have the beneficiaries been affected?”

While vaccination and preventive measures against
diseases were introduced in a large scale by the
foundation, they focused on generating social consent
for hygiene and sanitation measure by educating the
people on waste management, against water logging, and
the need to have clean roads and by lanes etc. The
proponents of the foundation, like most of those who
set out to formulate urban healthcare were of the
realization that healthcare in its modern forms of
understanding has to be implemented through a
transformation in the behavioural patterns of the
indigenous societies. Urbanization meant that the
society had to be regulated and monitored to represent
the new forms of governance, as laboratories of the
new modes of governance.

In Travancore, the popularization of sanitary and
similar health care measures were laid down by the
Christian missionaries, who introduced hospitals ad
clinics during the mid nineteenth century. Education
and healthcare formed the two most important forms of
missionary intervention. They considered these as the
path towards the realization of their objective of
religious conversion. For the foundation, Travancore
provided the ideal socio-political and geographical
location for experimenting their medical and
philanthropic concerns.

The extend to which initial missionary intervention
contributed to the generation of social consent for
the later day popularization of western medicine is
rarely explored. This was primarily for the fact that
studies pertaining to sanitation and healthcare had in
most circumstances overlooked the larger discourses
that shaped urban hygiene and sanitary measures.
Missionary perception on health sharply contrasted the
therapeutic practices of the indigenous societies.
personal hygiene, cleanliness etc formed an important
part of missionary curricula.
Regards
Burton




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